[Oberlist] SI/GR/DE* lets defense the squats and the autonomous spaces

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Subject: Radical-europe Digest, Vol 13, Issue 41
From:    radical-europe-request la listes.agora.eu.org
Date:    Wed, March 26, 2008 13:00
To:      radical-europe la listes.agora.eu.org
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:45:53 +0100
From: "tovarna rog ljubljana" <rog la email.si>
Subject: [Radical-europe] [RogList] Re: [Pgabalkan] On diveristy and
convergence - ROG has to remain!


PEOPLE!
WHEN YOU ALL DECIDE WHAT TO DO AND DECIDE IT'S BEEN ENOUGH OF TALKING,
COME TO
SUPPORT ROG IN PERSON!
YOU WILL FIND US STANDING THERE PROUDLY, NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS!
SUPPORT US!
SUPPORT YOUR SELF!
rog team

ps
we don't need a new modern cultural center, we have all we need already!
There are too many things needed a lot more urgently than that!
We don't need any help from authorities, as they can't help us.
(but we can help them)
What we need, is a chance to develope our own ideas, without anyone
telling us,
how to think!
We need your trust!
We need you (the responsible ones) to re-evaluate what you are doing!
You are destroying one of the most important cultural, sociological,
artistic,
humanitarian(...) society Slovenia ever had!
Don't offer progress and at the same time sell us old crap as new!
(We (temporary rog users) are not stupid , we just look like that after 2
years
of depression!)
You don't even have idea, what is really going on, but you already want to
change that!
Modern art does not mean modern buildings!
Do you even understand, why we always trying to find a place, where we
will not
be bothered by suppressive ideas.
Don't take it away the moment it starts to successfully live on its own!
We don't want you SELLING our success every time!
Don't force your private ideas into public thinking.
Let us choose our own ways!
First, you say, when you come to us, is 'Tell this to your leaders'.
What leaders?
We don't believe in that! Don't you know that? (it's been published for more
than 2 years all over the internet and everywhere else. Can't you read?)
And in democracy that should be normal thing! It is the basic of our work!
We are all equals and tend to achieve agreements with discussion and not
force!
We understand that, why don't you understand it?
Can you really provide us what we need, and is this what you are doing,
really
what should be done?
With closing ROG, You are also about to close a number of important half
finished projects (some also sponsored by city and government - paradox)
We have been let to fail by all the institutions and people payed to do their
job during this two years!
(And we still managed to spread culture for free, for all!)
Are we really the ones, not keeping the promise?
We all learn by mistakes we all make!
Think about it...
Tovarna ROG


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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 10:09:10 +0100
From: "Alex Foti" <alex.foti la gmail.com>
Subject: [Radical-europe] Fwd: [PGA_Europe_process] Squat in greece
attacked probably by Nazis today


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From: vlanto la no-log.org <vlanto la no-log.org>
Date: Mar 25, 2008 1:43 PM
Subject: [PGA_Europe_process] Squat in greece attacked probably by Nazis
today
To: april2008-coordination la squat.net
Cc: pga_europe_process la squat.net, pgabalkan la eurodusnie.nl


Today is 25th of March and in Greece celebrate the national revolution
against turkish Empire! Definitely a good day for the greek Nazis / greek
state to attack to the infrastucture of the movement - the Squats. An
arson attack with explosive shit and the roof of the squat named
Prapopoulou as far as i understood destroyed by a fire. That was exactly
announced by  somebody  on the local indymedia earlier today.


Prapopoulou squat was a new one . The people there used to have a big
garden and alternative energy wind moderators for electricity ! they
organise a cinema every monday and they had good relations with the local
people. It was a real local alternative to fucking capitalism , full of
DIY activities

Im writing also cause some days ago the social space ROG in Ljubljana
evacuated by the local authorities in Slovenia . and in Berlin new social
spaces are under attack

this is the situation and   We have it everywhere in Europe. The
decentralised days of actions for the squats and autonomous spaces are
much important for the defense not only the idea of alternative way of
living but the whole movement's infrastructure in Europe .. The upper
class realizes more than us the importance and the power of the squats


i would like to send more about Prapopoulou squat soon and somebody to
update the wiki

lets defense the squats and the autonomous spaces


in solidarity


vl
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